Lesson 13 · — places, floors and prices

How much, and which floor

Lesson 6 taught you to ask at a point when the course had no numbers to answer it with. Today it gets them — and they are counted in a unit English and Arabic do not have.

≈22 minutes · every reading and every commonness tag checked against Jisho.org · the word list is Minna no Nihongo I lesson 3, which this lecture sheet names in its own heading

Lesson 13 of the course

Two thirds of this page is a building you can walk through — rooms, stairs, floors, a shop. The last third is the part that will take the practice: three number words, two counters, and a way of grouping digits that does not line up with either language you already have.

About the kanji on this page

Thirty-seven characters appear in the column and twenty-six are new; you have already met . Recognition only, as in lessons 10 to 12 — no stroke order, no writing practice, no kanji system, and the kana is still the form to learn. Four repeat, and repeats three times, which is section 4's whole subject.

1.Two more rows of the same grid

The first eight words are not new shapes. They are the , and columns of two more rows of the grid — the one lesson 6 drew when it taught the column, and lesson 12 filled in two rows of.

The grid needs JavaScript. The same sets are laid out on the question-word reference sheet.

Four rows of the grid are now yours: and from lesson 12, and from today. Learn a row and you get four words; learn the three prefixes once and they never change again.

Trick 1 · The row is the polite row of the whole grid

The lecture sheet writes “polite equivalent of ” beside each of the four words and never says why. The why is that they ask a direction where the short ones ask a place, and gesturing at a direction is vaguer — therefore gentler — than pointing at a spot.

That is chapter 11's rule turning up for the third time: the polite form is longer, and it is less direct. → , → , and now → .

Trick 2 · Arabic builds its place words from the same two pieces as yesterday

Lesson 12 found that Arabic marks its middle demonstrative with كاف الخطاب, the second-person you, and its far one by adding لام البعد on top: ذَا → ذَاكَ → ذٰلِكَ. The place words do it again, on a different stem:

So both languages derive place from pointing by a regular operation — Japanese swaps the ending ( → ), Arabic stacks two suffixes. Learn the operation once and you get a paradigm in each language.

2.One building, twelve words

Nothing here needs a trick — it is a floor plan. Two of the rooms share a character, and that is the only pattern worth pointing at.

JapaneseWhat it isWorth noticing
ロビーlobbyThree beats — is two.
うけつけ
receptionThe desk, the department and the person, all one word.
きょうしつ
classroom is the one inside chapter 11's .
かいぎしつ
conference roomSame room as above.
じむしょ
office“Business-affairs place”.
しょくどう
canteen eat + hall.
へや
roomThe plain word. Lesson 4 taught it as two kana.
かいだん
staircaseLiterally floor steps — and that is section 4.
ちか
basementWhere the food hall is, in every department store.

Two words on the lecture sheet are mistyped

3.Japanese counts in fours

This is the part of the chapter that has to be understood rather than memorised. English and Arabic put a separator every three digits. Japanese groups every four.

How it is written — commas every three digits, in all three languages

100,000,000

English and Arabic read straight off this line: hundred · million

Where the Japanese words break — every four digits

1,0000,0000

read off this line instead:

The same number twice — 100 million. Japanese is written with the commas on the top line, like everyone else; its words group on the bottom one. So a large number has to be silently regrouped before it can be said aloud, and that regrouping is the whole difficulty. It does not go away with fluency.

Put side by side, the question is simply which numbers does each language have a single word for:

NumberEnglishArabicJapanese
100hundredمِئَةひゃく 百
1,000thousandأَلْفせん 千
10,000ten thousandعَشَرَةُ آلَافٍまん 万
1,000,000millionمِلْيُونひゃくまん 百万
100,000,000hundred millionمِئَةُ مِلْيُونٍおく 億

Italic means the language has no word of its own and builds one out of smaller pieces. Read down the columns: English and Arabic go up in threes and have to spell out 10,000; Japanese goes up in fours and has to spell out 1,000,000. Neither is stranger than the other — but you have to switch.

Trick 3 · is a column, not a word — so it is never said alone

Ten thousand is , never . From upward a number takes its when nothing else precedes it, where and stand bare — and are fine on their own.

The reliable test: if you can say it in English without the word one, Japanese probably needs the . And Arabic agrees with English here — أَلْف stands alone too. This is the one place the two languages you have both diverge from the one you are learning.

4.The sounds that collide

Numbers meeting counters change shape. Nobody chose these; they are what happens when the consonants meet. Only the marked cells differ from the predictable form.

With368What?
百 さんびゃく ろっぴゃく はっぴゃく なんびゃく
千 さんぜん ろくせん regular はっせん なんぜん
階 さんがい ろっかい はっかい なんがい

Two things are worth taking from that table rather than memorising it whole. Six and eight double the consonant — , — which is the small lesson 7 taught, doing a job. And three voices what follows it: → , → , → . That is the tenten from lesson 5, appearing as a sound rule rather than a spelling one.

Trick 4 · The question word tells you the rule

The lecture sheet lists — what floor — as its own row, voiced. It does not list anywhere. But is proof enough: if the question word voices, the counter voices, and is .

Same trick reads the brackets on the sheet's own row. That parenthesis is not an alternative pronunciation — it is the entire sound change, compressed into one cell.

5.The walk

All forty-one words, in four scenes, each word in exactly one of them. Like lesson 12's this is a place rather than a story — but this one climbs: the entrance, up through the floors, the shop, the till. Read it through once. Then press Hide on a scene and say the Japanese from the English.

The same device as one day, every word, which walks all 230 words of lessons 4 to 7.

The walk is rendered from assets/story13-data.js and needs JavaScript. Every word it contains is also on a card in section 6 below.

6.Forty-one words

Grouped the way the walk moves through them. Wrong answers in the drill come from inside a group, so the hard calls are the real ones: against , against , and the three units against each other.

The word cards need JavaScript. Every word on them appears in the walk above.

Drill them for meaning

The drill needs JavaScript. Every word it asks about is in the list above.

7.Buying something

Four sentences carry the whole transaction. The frame is the one you have — with lesson 6's — plus today's numbers.

これは いくらですか。

JapaneseEnglish
これは いくらですか。How much is this?
さんぜんえんです。It's 3,000 yen.
くつうりばは なんがいですか。What floor is the shoe department on?
ごかいで ございます。It's on the fifth floor.

Trick 5 · comes at you, not from you

The last line is the shop assistant's, and it is one storey higher — the sheet glosses it only as “polite equivalent of ”. Staff say it to customers; the customer does not say it back.

Chapter 11 established that Japanese politeness is directional — it points away from the speaker. about others and about yourself was the first case, on this page is the second, and this is the third. You will hear far more often than you will ever need to say it.

Three set phrases finish the exchange, in the order they are spoken.

  1. 1.Excuse me — said to open, not to apologise.

    Japanese

    すみません。

    sumimasen

    Arabic

    لَوْ سَمَحْتَ.

    law samaḥta

  2. 2.Please show me that one.

    Japanese

    それを みせて ください。

    sore o misete kudasai

    Arabic

    أَرِنِي ذَاكَ، مِنْ فَضْلِكَ.

    arinī dhāka, min faḍlika

  3. 3.Right — I'll take it.

    Japanese

    じゃ、それを ください。

    ja, sore o kudasai

    Arabic

    إِذَنْ، أَعْطِنِي ذَاكَ مِنْ فَضْلِكَ.

    idhan, aʿṭinī dhāka min faḍlika

Learn these two as shapes, not as grammar

Both requests contain something this course has not taught and is not teaching today. The marks what the verb is done to, and is a conjugated form of . Take the whole phrase as one block — swap only the word in front of — exactly as chapter 11 handled and chapter 12 handled .

on its own asks for a thing; asks for an action. That difference is the entire reason one of them carries the extra word.

8.Sources

  1. Japanese numerals — read this one if you read only one. It is the source for grouping into myriads rather than thousands, for why 10,000 must be , and for the multiplication table behind section 4's sound changes. Myriad gives the wider picture: China, Korea, Japan and ancient Greek all count this way.
  2. Japanese counter words for the table — , , , , — and for the general k- and h- sound-change rules that section 4 is an instance of. It notes that not every speaker observes over .
  3. Jisho.org, serving JMdict/EDICT — every reading and commonness tag here, and the check that caught both of the lecture sheet's slips. It is also where turns out to be underground and the price of land, both common.
  4. هنالك for the etymology behind Trick 2 — ـكَ + لِ + هُنَا — and ألف for the Arabic side of section 3, including a million as أَلْف أَلْف, a thousand thousands.
  5. Minna no Nihongo I, 3A Corporation. This chapter's word list is that textbook's lesson 3, word for word — the lecture sheet says so in its own heading.
  6. Question-word sheet — the full grid, of which this chapter fills in the last two everyday rows. Lesson 12 is where the other two came from, and where Trick 2's Arabic pattern was first found.